Thread:Raziel Reaper/@comment-2008429-20190320204110/@comment-30930384-20190321195032

Rvb forever wrote: Thanks I apprechiate it. I did notice however that since the last time I looked at the article. Someone added that John’s daughter died of cholera. This is actually an old debunked rumor. John Marston’s Daughter is only directly mentioned twice in two bits of dialogue by John. And once by Javier indirectly.

John mentions her to Bonnie. “I had a daughter but she died. Years before that I rode in a gang.”

John says to Luisa “I have a son at home and a daughter in heaven.”

Javier indirectly mentions her when he threatens John by saying “I hope you and your wife and children. Rot in hell!”

Those three bits of dialogue are the only time John’s Daughter is ever mentioned in the entire game and never once is a cause of her death stated. They only ever mention that she died years after John’s life in the gang. Which only gives a very loose tiemframe of her life and death. Never how or why she died.

With the articles factual integrity in mind, I strongly recommend removing the mention of cholera as her cause of death. I would apprechiate it given that we locked the article to prevent speculative information from ending up on the article. Other then that specific stipulation. Everything else on the article checks out to me. I have no further comment other then saying thanks for taking my suggestions. It’s always nice when admins are open to having legitimate dialogue with their users concerning the content of articles.

Thanks. I've removed the cholera death rumor from the page. Rockstar has effectively screwed up a few things in the Redemption canon. The boat robbery that was botched took place in 1899 instead of the presumed date of 1906, and John wasn't left for dead in the boat robbery in RDR II, despite RDR I explicitly stating he was left for dead on it and it was the gang's last robbery. Aside from that, Rockstar made Javier's comment towards John about "children" seem odd, since Javier never learns about Marston's daughter. It is possible though that he simply misspoke. Personally, I believe that the daughter is probably born in late 1907 (after the epilogue/wedding, making it John's only child not born out of wedlock) or early 1908, and died shortly afterward, possibly within a month to a year after it's birth. Rockstar could've at least had Abigail announce a pregnancy at the end of the game, but instead it seems like they forgot about the daughter, as if she were just a passing remark designed to add a little more to John's backstory.