User talk:Hawbz/Archive 1

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Howdy Partner
Just decided to say hey.

Characters
Hello, XHobbes, I just want to ask you, from where you get the names of the characters you created this day. Excuse my bad English. Ziani15 Diskussion 20:46, December 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I get the names when I am killed in free-roam. When I am killed by a lawman or another NPC, it tells me his/her name in the bottom left corner. That is his A.I. name and I use that name for their pages. Sometimes, the lawmen are available in Outfitter, but those aren't the ones you encounter in singleplayer and free-roam. I hope this answers your question. XHobbes 20:49, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you. Can we use the images of them in our German Red-Dead-Wiki, too? ^^ Ziani15 Diskussion 20:58, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be fine. XHobbes 21:41, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It's very kind of you. Ziani15 Diskussion 21:56, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Characters
Mate, you're doing a great work putting the info of citizens and lawmen! Keep up.

MW2_BR

Thank you, I do my best. XHobbes 03:12, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Vandal
I blocked him, thanks for letting me know :) --Anon talk 16:38, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE: New Characters
Hey, bud, I just wanted to thank you for doing the work to figure out those new characters. Out of curiosity, how did you find out their names?

Anyway, it's also great that you added pics for each one, however, they will still need to be improved. Do you have an HD television? It's hard to tell in your photos but they look like they are shots from a CRT, which is why they look 'spotty'. Do you have PhotoShop (PS)? PS can GREATLY improve the way your photos look you can darken them and add a little color to adjust for what the camera doesn't pick up. Also, try not to hold the camera too close to the screen, if you pull it back a little, you'll get less of the pixelation and jaggies...

Anyway, the main reason I'm bringing this up is that I've got a certain level of uniformity going with the Single Player character pages and you're almost following it, but you're missing a few steps (try to keep in mind that I'm not chastising you, just trying to make your edits better). It's not that the steps are particularly difficult, more tedious than anything else, but if I don't know you've created the page, it might be awhile until it gets edited properly. So, when you add another new character, please follow these steps:

1. For instances where the full character name is used in the infobox and the article use  as this ensures that if the page name is changed, the article does not need to be re-edited. This can obviously be superseded in a case where the name needs to be expanded - for instance adding an ", M.D." to Nathaniel Johnston.

2. I have created links for the word 'character' that will take the reader to the section of the Characters in Redemption page where a particular character resides. The word 'character' in the first sentence of the article should be replaced by whichever of the following lines of code correspond to the character's tier designation (I would suggest simply cutting and pasting the code from this post):

Central character

Major character

Supporting character

Minor character

Minor character

Minor character

Minor character

Minor character

Minor character

Minor character

Minor, unseen character

Minor, deceased character

3. Add the word 'featured' into the opening line before "in Red Dead Redemption".

4. At the bottom of the article, be sure to add so that the template of characters gets tipped in at the bottom of the article.

5. Again at the bottom of the article, add the code DEFAULTSORT: Last, First}}, with 'Last' and 'First' being the character's name, obviously. This will sort the character by the last name when the 'Characters' category is clicked.

6. Remember that Character box I mentioned in #4? Well, it needs to have the character's name added to it as well (in the proper section, naturally). This one's a bit more tricky to edit and I'd priobably have a difficult time explaining it here, but you can check out the way it is coded and should be able to see how to add a name into the listing. It's easier than it looks, by the way... :)

Anyway, sorry so long an' all, but I just finished doing all of the above to the characters you added over the last few days. Keep in mind that people will be more apt to look at your articles if you link them properly so that they can be found.

The only reason I spotted them was that I looked into the new pictures that were uploaded and saw all of yours...

My whole reason for even mentioning this is to try and maintain the unity of the character articles.

Cheers!

-JackFrost23 22:56, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mexican Poncho
I wore it extensively during the Mexican missions.

So now you know someone who wore it. :)

Is it a 'preferred' outfit? That's a bit too subjective for trivia, so I'm glad you removed it. I don't know why I didn't.

Cheers!

- JackFrost23 19:32, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Editing
Well, I'm really glad my note didn't upset you and that you seemed responsive to my suggestions.

As far as the pictures go, they aren't the worst I've ever seen, trust me - I was just giving you tips on how to improve them with the method you're currently using. I've taken pics of my monitor myself and posted the images, so it's not unheard of... ;) At any rate, PhotoShop is aces at touching up pics before posting and is easier to use than you might imagine. It is, however, kind of expensive, but there are ways around that, y'know? ;)

At any rate that was a good idea to post the pics based on what you said. If I come across any of those guys with the way I've been making pics (which I will not reveal on the wiki again because it resulted in some HORRID pics being posted) I will post an improved pic - like I did with Ray Warthington...

But I gotta say that the technique you devised for getting pics and names is rather ingenious and I'm ashamed it never occurred to me. So I hope you don't mind if I borrow it sometime.

Have a great Christmas!

Cheers!

- JackFrost23 19:54, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm always open to suggestions about improving my editing. This wiki is about Red Dead, not about xHobbes, so no offense was taken.


 * For future reference, if you do try my ingenious technique, not all characters carry guns, and it can be quite the hassle to get there name. Take Elward Swann for example. It was a challenge to get his name. I ended up going to the Blackwater Train Station, where he is normally located, and I purposely got myself killed while my weapon was drawn. I found him at the station and attacked him with my fists. After knocking him down, he stood up and I drew my revolver, which made him run for the pistol I dropped when I got myself killed, and he shot me and I learned his name. However, you can imagine my reaction when I tried the tactic on my next victim, and instead my target ran away and a nearby Elward pulled out a Winchester and killed me.


 * Also, there was one thing I wanted to ask you. All around Blackwater there are shops that say the store owners names. I was wondering if these characters can be added under "Unseen"? This may change, however, because the funeral director was listed as A.G. Ott, and later I was killed by Androcles Ott) So possibly some of these store owners are in the game? Just wanted your opinion. Thanks. XHobbes 21:42, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Seth Briars
What are you talkin" about I am Seth Briars and that is that.

Vandal (2)
Blocked him, thanks bringing him to my attention.

Also, you've been doing an exceptionally good job around here lately, editing, fixing edits and warning/talking to people and all that. So if you're interested, I think it's about time you apply for adminship :) --Anon talk 15:21, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Adminship
I am 100% sure you'll make a great admin, and I base that on your overall conduct on this wiki. You know the game pretty well, your edits are spotless, you write a summery for almost all of your edits, you communicate well with other users and you know the rules, therefore you set a perfect example for other users to follow, and that's two thirds of what every admin should be. The other one third is having a need to use admin powers. You often deal with vandalism so you could use the ability to block people and you could also use 'rollback' to fix their edits. Also, I'm sure you'll find an opportunity to delete a couple of articles in the future :)

So I say, go for it, but if you need to think it over, I totally understand. --Anon talk 21:44, January 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * The requests often get lost in the recent changes, and that's probably the reason why it hasn't been answered your. I'll let TNT LotLP know about your request and he'll make the decision.


 * I've also blocked the guy, so he shouldn't be a problem for a while. --Anon talk 04:03, January 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just sent out the message, so you should get an answer pretty soon :) --Anon talk 04:12, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

The Esteban Morales article :O
Thanks for correcting my error, man. Eegads, didn't even understand why I was being edited over until just a few minutes ago! Thanks for the save back there, friend!

EDIT: Thanks anywho, I think your method of finding their names is quite interesting.

Hello
Hello Xhobbes - WaaJacob

List of animals for Unnatural Selection
Just so you know, not all animals are on that list for instance dog, pig, cow and sheep are not on it as they do not count toward the achievement.

You can still shoot them, if you want, but they don't count toward acquisition.

Cheers!

- JackFrost23 21:32, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Zombie Marston Anonymous Users
I noticed that there are a lot of Anonymous people putting things onto the page and you fixing it (thanks for that, by the way), I was thinking you or someone else could lock that page so only registered users can edit it. Thanks, Jackass2009 01:12, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I think it's stopping a problem before it becomes an actual, full, problem. I'll talk to JackFrost or Anonnimus, thanks for the assistance. Jackass2009 01:21, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

No Page for Xhobbes
Hi xhobbe i deleted my page again because

1. its MY page

2 Go pick on someone else or ill REPORT YOU to an administer

Hey are you taking off my posts?
Yeah, hi I'm new here and I've put this thing on the harold MacDougal trivia about how nastas and...well anyway long story short have you been taking off my post? If so why? (I'm not trying to sound nasty or anything I just wanna know)

RE:Hey are you taking off my posts?
I thank you for your answer and I have to admit the two remarks about the outfits were a little subjective on my part but I still think you shouldve left that one about MacDougal. Even if it was canon or...whatever. Anyway all I wanted was an explanation and you gave me one (and a good one too) P.S. Hey! I love Irish too. And I love Calvin and Hobbes too. And I love Fallout 3 too. And I love...Oh my god you have good tastes you know that? =)

Thanks
Thank you sir.

Sorry I did not meant to hurt your fragile feelings mate.

LMAO

oh your picking on more people than just me then xhobbes not wise picking fights even on the internet maybe i could label you as a bit of a cyberbully.- WaaJacob

the day i joined first person to tell me i got something wrong was non other than the so highly valued Xhobbes..-

WaaJacob

Happy now?
Fine i wont delete my talk page as you care so much for your precious rules

but maybe you should be a bit nicer to people 

trolling and being abusive just a litte arent you

''Read rules of the west you can leave them here for reference. -WaaJacob 23:23, January 7, 2011 (UTC)WaaJacob''

PS3 Account?
''Um...hi, it's me again. I'm writing this on the talk page cuz I dont know how to send a PM. Anyway I was just wondering do you play RDR on ps3? If you do what's the name of your account. I'd like to add you as a friend so we could play together on multiplayer. (I always like playing with other people on multi so I ask most of the people I meet)''

Edits to my Tomahawk Mastery additions
Hey, thanks for making my additions look better. I really thought it was weird that the RDR: UN disc-based challenges for the Tomahawk and Explosive Rifle Challenges weren't listed. Again, thanks for making them better set up

Vandals
Warned the first guy and blocked the second. Thanks for bringing them to my attention. --Anon talk 02:40, January 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, I forgot to check the recent edits :)
 * Guys like that usually just need a warning, (using this template ), so they know that we can see what they did there. --Anon talk 21:08, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Achievement Booster
I agree, his edits do look like achievement boosting, but he already has all the badges he can get from commenting blogs, so his efforts are futile. Also I just blocked him for removing messages from his talk page, this should at least prevent him from clogging up the recent changes for a couple of days :) --Anon talk 19:09, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

problems
I think I may have an explanation to the problems you are having.

The magic-word doesn't work while creating a new article through the Special:CreatePage (it still works while creating an article from a red link), because the article doesn't technically exist yet, so the magic-word isn't recognized and the six 'single quotes' surrounding it make the whole paragraph bold and italicized with one single quote to spare. Once you save the changes, everything will look as it should.

As for the "putting sections in boxes" part, I think this may have been caused by a space before the first word in a paragraph, like this:

Sample sentence in a box.

Hope this answered the question :) --Anon talk</tt> 02:17, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Trivia
The trivia portion of a page is just made up of fun facts or parts of the game that players miss. I added that to the page as a simple contribution. If this is a website where fans of Red Dead can come together to create article, tips, etc about the game, then I politely ask you not to delete my contributions because they MAY seem unnessesary to you. It was a small fact that I found interesting.

I apologize if I seem to be disrespectful. But you say that you've deleted tons of "unecessary" contributions. It's amusing to me how you choose to remove my input when there are many other entries that don't even make sense. There's even another trivia portion on another page that has something similar to mine (the one you removed). I don't wish for any trouble, so please do not reply with any kind of anger or irritation. Thank you.

Also, you say that I do not understand the concept of the trivia section. As a matter of fact, the definition of triva is matters or things that are very unimportant.

Ok, I can understand where you are coming from and I respect it. I apologize for overreacting about a removed contribution. I thank you for clearing this up with me and for making this Wikia what it is. I am a big fan of Red Dead and this Wiki has helped me with my progress in the game. I hope we can work together to expand this Wiki and make it better. Thank you.

Seth
Sorry I'm new here, thanks for the noteSeth Tomasino 20:28, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

The drama is over, now then stop complaining about "dramas" it's over now.Seth Tomasino 00:50, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Also I never started it he did, that wasn't the first, he writes"you really are an asshole" so would you mind stop stalking other users and mind butting out, then we can all be happySeth Tomasino 00:58, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really complaining, you stick you your affairs and I'll stick to mine.Seth Tomasino 01:08, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

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Videos
Following this policy from the Fallout wiki, I'd say that we can do without any videos. But since we don't follow those rules, then I think we can include some videos in the articles, as long as they add to the article. As for the cut scene videos, I think we don't really need those (since the players can either watch them during their play through or find them on youtube), unless there's something extremely important in them and it can't be explained in a concise manner. --Anon talk</tt> 21:17, January 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd prefer there were no video links on the pages except in rare occasion where something is not explainable any other way - like Annon said. Otherwise they can find all the vids they want on YouTube.


 * But, then again, nobody asked me, so I'll shut up.


 * - JackFrost23 21:31, January 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry if I've offended you, Jack, by not asking you. I just felt that I bugged you enough about character pages and whatnot, so I went to Annonn. That's all. Sorry. -xHobbes ( Talk - Contribs ) 00:25, January 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * No worries, I'm not offended. :) And I'd rather we discussed things than step on each other's toes...


 * - JackFrost23 00:42, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Pinky and Elmore
See, now you just added these two and Elmore doesn't have the character template at the bottom of the page.

But the bigger deal is that you added neither of them into the characters template.

sorry for harping on this, and I know it's tedious, but in teh end it will be more professional and will aid immensely in navigation of the wiki...

Cheers!

- JackFrost23 00:41, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, now I'm confused.


 * I added Elmore a while ago, back when I didn't know that I was supposed to add that. I just added it now, by the way.
 * Pinky, I did just create Pinky, but he has the characters template, doesn't he? I added the { Characters } thing and the DEFAULTSORT. I thought that's what you meant. -xHobbes ( Talk ) 00:51, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * (P.S. I've decided against adding a "Criminals" section the Characters in Redemption. It would only work if we added the Bounty Targets, and then we'd have to call it "Criminals and Bounty Targets" or something.)


 * Hobbes, it's not enough that you put the character template on the bottom of each page if you don't subsequently add said character INTO the template itself.


 * So when you're finished adding the character page, go down to the bottom and click the 'e' (for edit, naturally) in the left hand side of the Character template bar - like so:




 * Then add the character's name alphabetically to the list...


 * Voila!


 * -JackFrost23 16:26, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, I see that now. I will go about doing that to some of the pages now. -xHobbes ( Talk ) 17:03, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Holy hell! I clicked that 'e' on the template and all I see is a mash of squiggles. I only edit on 'source' mode, is it any easier to read or edit on 'rich text editing' mode? -xHobbes ( Talk ) 17:05, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * As far as I know it can only be edited in source mode. Those 'squiggles' are simply a double-{ with an exclamation point in the center to make the vertical lines between names. Other than that, it's just the characters' names in the double-brackets...


 * If you don't think you can manage it, then at least provide me with a list of the characters you're adding so that I can put them on it for you. :)


 * Cheers!


 * - JackFrost23 17:31, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, I can do it. I'm just saying, it's bloody confusing. -xHobbes ( Talk ) 17:38, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that list is getting pretty bulky, and now that I think of it, it's one of the reasons I don't want to add the 20 Bounty Targets to the characters page! :D


 * I suppose the template could be further broken into the groups we have on the characters page, but that'll be some work. And not a high priority for me at the moment. :D


 * - JackFrost23 21:46, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Unknown Horse
Hello again. I was playing a co-op mission in Red Dead Multiplayer when I discovered a horse that was completely black and had white hair. I was wondering if you had any idea as to what kind of horse it was and how it appeared. Thanks.

-GRob39


 * I'm assuming the mission you're referring to is &quot;The Kidnapped Girl&quot; and the horse appears right near the very end, correct?


 * That is the very rare War Horse that was initially a bonus for those who pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition of the game, but even then the horse only appeared in Single Player mode.


 * Why R* put it into the last few seconds of that Co-op mission is anybody's guess, but if you can manage to keep at least one of the criminals alive (and not shooting the girl) you can actually ride the horse around for a bit.


 * Cheers!


 * - JackFrost23 16:31, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Adopting a Wiki
All you need to adopt a wiki is post a request on this page.

I checked out the wiki (I assume you're talking about this one), and it looks like it's eligible for adoption. The admins haven't been active for over a year and there's very little activity there.

But before you post your request, you should edit there for at least a day, and continue editing during the time it takes for the staff to review your request. Also remember to post a link to the wiki in your request ( Hot Fuzz wiki ) and include all the required info (required info can be found at the top of the request page).

Good luck with your request. :) --Anon talk</tt> 19:06, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can help you with all your template needs, just let me know what you need. And I can still create that character infobox for you if you want.
 * Also, going back to the adoption request. You should pay no attention to the "You have not founded, adopted, or been given admin access on another wiki in the last 60 days" part on the request page. The staff doesn't really look at that. Just thought I'd let you know :) --Anon talk</tt> 20:31, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Cougar
Hey, I'm really sorry. I guess it was just something with my game. I assure you, I will not make that post again. By the way, thank you for letting me know. I probably would have just kept making people mad. Thank you.

RE:Golden Guns
I guess your a booster then... haha don't hate cuz u might suck at the game.. you might have made so many edits and created pages for this wikia but it doesn't make you better.. you just annnoying since the day I joined in.. about the golden guns.. yea it says "golden guns MAY have lost popularity.. meaning: I always hear lots of people saying the same thing and boosters really suck not trying to offend you. Good luck with them Golden Guns mate hope I didn't hurt your feelings.

Im pretty sure your the one who went into my profile and started the insulting.. and you don't need to give me your gaming history in RDR haha good luck to you, pal.

No joke but you sure like to talk smack.

P.S. I said you might be a booster.. but if your getting so offended thats problably why I think you are.

mass effect
you don't play mass effect? it seems from your favorite games that you would like it


 * I don't like Mass Effect. The first one didn't do it for me. I didn't like the storyline, and the main antagonist, S something, I had noting against him, really. Mass Effect 2 was better. It was more fun, a more involving experience, but still not the greatest. Who knows, maybe Mass Effect 3 will redeem the series for me? :) -xHobbes ( Talk ) 06:10, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Free Roam Characters
I think this is a good idea, because if a user is reading the Free Roam page and is looking at the character list, then he/she probably wants to see a list of characters in each faction after clicking on the link instead of being linked to the faction's article. And after looking the list on the Multiplayer Characters page, the user can still easily navigate to the factions article since there's a link for each faction at the top of their table.

So I think you should go for it :) --Anon talk</tt> 19:52, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey thanks for fixing up the page on here about Death. Someone deleted all the info on the four horses. I tried adding to it but man you made it awesome.

Re: Death
I restored the article to the version before it was vandalized. And you can do that too :), all you need to do, is go to the "last good version" of the article (in the history of the page), click on the date that appears before the username of the user that edited it, click the edit button and after you see the edit window just press 'save page' and the whole article will revert to that version.

P.S. I only found out about this technique after about half a year of being active on wikia :) --Anon talk</tt> 19:20, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Lost Town
You could have just told me before-hand. Instead of blocking me, THEN telling me.

K bud. I only removed the speedy delete thing ONCE, so don't feed me that bs. Also I didn't look at the date on the block notification. Also, I will read over THE RULES, so dont worry yourself, Partner.

P.S Believe me or dont personally I dont care. The perverted comments were not posted by me.

1.Granted It DOES in fact say I am perverted (not now of course) Whatever

2. I have read over THE RULES.

3. Your British arent you?

Do You Have 360 Or PS3? We should play RDR sometime.

Boxes
The boxes are fixed ;)

Those boxes appear when a space is inserted at the beginning of a paragraph. Removing those spaces will fix the problem.

Also, I forgot to congratulate you for becoming an admin at the Hot Fuzz wiki, so, CONGRATULATIONS!!! --Anon talk</tt> 00:02, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's what I assumed (and couldn't be bothered explaining it) :D
 * Also, the "new message" notifications only show up for me after a couple (sometimes more) of minutes after receiving a message. Does that happen to every one, or is it just me? --Anon talk</tt> 03:47, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sorry about jumping to conclusions. And I really don't know. I don't check my talk page until i get that nice little "You have received a new e-mail from Wikia" message. Also, could you send me a link to where I must go in order to A)request b'crat rights be removed and B)change the name of the wiki? Thanks. - xHobbes (  Talk  ) 03:50, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * It was an honest mistake, I reverted his edit where he removed the messages, so it didn't appear in the 'wiki activity'. I probably would've missed it too, if I wasn't the one doing the reverting :)
 * You can request both things at the same time through this special page. --Anon talk</tt> 03:56, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re: "Move" User Page
You can change your name, but you would have to ask the staff to do it for you (just drop them a message through Special:Contact).

Using the move button on your user page would only move the 'article' your userpage occupies to a new name, but your account would stay the same. When the staff moves your account for you, they move all of your user pages (on every wiki you've been active), all your contributions and your "user rights" to a new account. So, if you wan't to get rid of the 'x' in your username, contacting the staff is your best choice :) --Anon talk</tt> 00:30, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Hopefully, within 2-3 business days, I will be known as "Hobbes". I also said, if that doesn't work, I'd be okay with "First Tiger Hobbes". Thanks. - xHobbes (  Talk  ) 00:53, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * The new name's looking good, a bit long though :) --Anon talk</tt> 18:11, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: 2 vandals
Blocked 'em both :) --Anon talk</tt> 21:07, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

So...
...when's the first G.R.O.S.S. meeting?

-JackFrost23 21:32, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, according to my records, you're almost 23 years late for that, as the first G.R.O.S.S. meeting happened on May 15th, 1989. - Hobbes (  Talk  ) 21:57, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sigh. How very literal of you. :D


 * - 22:59, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Horses of the Apocalypse/Chupacabra
To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not really sure. When I found it, I did have them all. This shouldn't matter, because the Chupacabra is in the Undead hunter challenge. The horses are in their own separate catagory. It might help to find them, however. As for finding the Chupacabra, I do have a little bit of advice. You must keep in mind that it can span randomly anywhere in Mexico. Some common locations are by Las Hermanas (just like I showed you) around Crooked Toes, west of Torquemada, by Brittlebush Trawl, and occasionally east of El Presidio. I HIGHLY suggest you follow these pointers:
 * First, make sure to scan the entire region of Nuevo Pariso. The Chupacabra is known for spawning in places you've already checked.
 * Use those common locations. It seems that if it can,t be found in any of those places, it is probably on the other side of the territory.
 * Remember to sweep back and forth in the territory. Check back in places you have just left.
 * Finally, look around not only for goats, but for undead wolfs. The Chupacabra seems to be hiding in large packs of these cretures. Look in places where goats should be, but are not. This could mean the Chupacabra is near by.
 * Really hope this advice works! DarthPhobos98 Feburary 9th, 2011. 9:42 PM central time

Dahdist
I just noticed what happened to Coke Buckley's article. He probably was testing all the buttons in the edit window and didn't notice the "Preview" button :) --Anon talk</tt> 00:53, February 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thy will shall be done :) --Anon talk</tt> 01:44, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Registered Vandal
I gave him a 3 day block for now, if he returns, I'll expand it.

As for the iamavandal template. I haven't used it myself yet, but I think it's only used on people with longer blocks. So if he returns and I have to block him again, I'll let you know so you can use the template :) --Anon talk</tt> 21:34, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Changing Jack's Pic
Alright, I'm about to do something drastic and I want your opinion.

I want to change the pic in the article for Jack Marston to what he looks like in 1911 since that's what he looks like through the majority of the time he's in the game story.

Not to mention the pic of Jack currently is from 1914 and has John's grave marker in the background which, to me, is a gigantic spoiler.

So I'm looking for a good image (similar in qulaity to the ones I recently put into the John Marston and Landon Ricketts articles.

Whaddaya think?

-JackFrost23 22:07, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Editing Templates
Sure, I can help you out with this.

I'll check the templates and fix the spelling, then I'll check for anything else that needs fixing :) --Anon talk</tt> 04:31, February 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. For quick travel, the templates are here, here, and here. Thanks again. - Hobbes (  Talk  ) 04:33, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Signature
How did you change your signature into the color gray?Quiet Man 23:12, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

We've got a vandal. I'm trying to undo his edits. He's been saying crap like 'FUCK YOU'' on pages. He erased an entire page just to say that. SirLinkalot96 00:53, February 23, 2011 (UTC)SirLinkalot96''

We Should Keep an Eye on This Guy
User Stopdroproll101 has created several character pages and added categories to many others (sorry Annon).

He has not linked any of the characters he's created back to the characters page and I think he created some new, unnecessary categories.

I shudder at having to try and get him to follow the uniformity of the other character pages as the only person who's ever seen eye-to-eye with me on it has been Hobbes. Everyone else just does whatever the fuck they want, no matter how I approach them...

Anyway, sorry for the mini-rant, but I wanted to bring this guy to your attention.

Cheers!

- JackFrost23 20:04, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Hello
Great to see you back :)

P.S. I uploaded a watermark for the Republic of Doyle wiki, I'm not completely satisfied with it, but I guess it's better than having plain text there.

Cheers :) --Anon <tt>talk</tt> 18:23, March 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Getting back to editing can be hard. I spent about two months without internet last summer, so I know how it feels when you're suddenly sucked back into the evil word of wikia :D --Anon <tt>talk</tt> 18:44, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome Back!
Good to see you again, I missed having you to help catch all the stupid, stupid edits being made lately. Is it me, or has there been a rash of poor editors here?

At any rate, I took a look at the page you mentioned and it doesn't look like it has links to gamertag pages. Did you get that cleared up already, or have I missed something?

Cheers!

- JackFrost23 16:00, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Gang Shootout
Hobbes,

I was working on a major update to the Gang Shootout page when you reverted an edit to that page a few minutes ago. When I went to save my changes, I got the "another user saved changes ... need to merge ..." page and was able to save all my changes. In doing so, however, I accidentally killed the categories for the page. I reviewed the diff between your save and mine and restored all the categories that were missing but two:

Long story short - now that I've added a bunch of info, I didn't restore the "stub" or "messy pages" category. If you feel the page still needs them, you can add them back. There's certainly more information that can be added (I'll be revisiting to update the achievement list, for example), it just seems beyond the stub state to me.

2ks4 06:00, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Moving User Pages
I moved his userpage back and left him a message. Also, I just noticed that when moving a userage, there's a big red warning telling you what'll happen, yet people still move them :) --Anon <tt>talk</tt> 06:04, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Help
How do you put a photo on a page? I click the link thing but nothing pops up just a big black box on the top is a red X and on the bottom a button that says save changes. Plz help?

Why?
I just edited the "Billy Sanchez" Page who i added some more informations about him but why you deleted that?

All because of you, i wasted my time for nothing... man,please, stop deleting my "more informations" about Billy Sanchez of Multiplayer Character and he is my fav' M.C!

Thanks.

The Wikia Contributor

Please...
Oh and one thing, please im NOT  a vandal because when i said more informations about B.S it was coherent especially the wound of B.S.


 * Unfortunately, if you made up the info that you posted on Billy Sanchez's article, you are more-or-less a vandal.


 * I will not remove it for now, but like I said on your talk page that I need to see some proof that this info is legitimate and not a creative writing project.


 * - JackFrost23 15:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

'''SO PLEASE, DONT DELETE PLEASE OK? If you say yes, so thanks man!'''

Mariostyle, the wikia contributor.

RE: Billy Sanchez
Hobbes, mate, don't worry about it, I'm not upset by anything here and I appreciate having you on the wiki because you tend to see things I miss and make them proper. I have no problems with your edits or your decisions.

But as an admin, I need to try and give the editors the benefit of the doubt before just laying the hammer down. I know full well he made up that story for Billy Sanchez, I'm just giving him an opportunity to admit it.

If I see no proof, I will delete the info because this is not a fanfic wiki and that information is not canon.

Thanks for keeping on top of this.

Cheers!

-JackFrost23 21:30, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Bounty Targets
Alright, I'm softening my position about adding the bounty targets to the characters page.

I keep coming across them as gamblers and such, so they do kind of have character status.

But I'm still thinking they should have their own Bounty Targets section on the page and not be lumped in with the Random citizens.

Whaddaya think?

Cheers!

-JackFrost23 21:35, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Im sorry for the trouble...
Sorry man, i didnt expect that...i forget the rule where we can't write backstory for a Multiplayer Character (Billy Sanchez) so please forgive me im really sorry for the trouble i caused to you because i didnt expect that.

Oh and by the way, you have the thanks for the frenchman (me) to give me a link to write the backstory of B.S

thanks you and sorry again! =)

Abusing Multiple Accounts
Those two do look suspicious, but since they haven't done anything wrong yet we can't do anything about it. But still, I'll be keeping an eye on them, I'll request a CheckUser for them. Cheers. --Anon <tt>talk</tt> 23:01, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Single/Multiplayer gang confusion
Hobbes,

I noticed the disagreement this morning regarding the addition of multiplayer character names to the single player Treasure Hunters page. I think that without guidance to the contrary it's understandable that a user might want to "complete the character list" without noting the distinction between the intent of the page (single player story line gang) and similar multiplayer character set.

In order to help avoid wasted effort on both ends in the future, I've modified some text on a few pages as an example of how I think page intent can be made clearer while directing the user to appropriate alternate pages. Let me know what you think:


 * Treasure Hunters - Moved Multiplayer section below Gang Members to reinforce the priority of the page. Added text in Gang Members section to clarify that they are single player only and to point users towards appropriate multiplayer page. Tried to carefully word things to emphasize the distinction between "gang members" and "playable characters who happen to look the same as gang members."


 * Miners - Similar wording change to emphasize that the playable characters are just modeled after the Treasure Hunters gang.


 * Walton's Gang and Walton's Gang (Multiplayer) - Similar changes, but also added a disambiguation link to the top of each page - not done for Miners/Treasure Hunters since they don't share the same name.

If this seems like a good direction, I can do the same to the other gang/character set pages when I have time.

2ks4 21:47, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

The Rolling Block Brigade
this is irish zonkey didnt mean to mess with the wiki just throwing out some advertisment for the rolling block brigade. and part of the reason i really edited the page is because it lacked creativitly. aside from my personal edits i think you can agree that somebody should fix that page to make it more satisfying

- IRISH ZONKEY Leader of The Rolling Block Brigade

IRISH ZONKEY
I have decided that using your website for advertisment was bad idea from the start. Nobody Actually seems to browse the posse list anyways, So I have decided that i am no longer going to be a part of the Red Dead Wiki and will focus on other wiki's for example Fallout's wiki The Vault. I play Red Dead Redemtion But i dont focus on every detail like most of your editiors. I hope with all respect that you find my choice nessacary to avoiding any conflictes. I enjoy the Red Dead Wiki But i'll leave the editing to use guys instead

<p style="text-align: right">- IRISH ZONKEY

Beecher's Hope
I just added a thing on the page Beecher's Hope, and you deleted it. Why?

Re: What the...?
I think he created the page and then moved it which hid his previous revision from the 'Wiki activity' page. I just looked at the history of the page and it appears I've deleted it before. Anyway, it's taken care of :)

Now about the 'Town defenders category'. I think the category has potential, but since the info isn't really that relevant and can be just as easily covered in the articles' text, then I'll get rid of it too. Cheers --Anon <tt>talk</tt> 03:51, April 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll delete it, since it's not a necessary category and the way it looks right now doesn't make it look good.
 * Also, I think I need to get back to cleaning up the categories before somebody decides to create more of them :) --Anon <tt>talk</tt> 04:11, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

i want edit something (and its true)
Please, mate, i want add a Trivia in Weapons:"The Fists"

The thing is to Knock Out a Npc (Or player in Multiplayer) it takes 9 punches to KO someone.

and the proof is in a video on Youtube, type:"red dead redemption cliff fight" and count the times of throwing fists, if you count until the player falls, its 9 times.

So Can i Please? Thanks!

- Mariostyle

RE: Welcoming Other Users
Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep that in mind. I think you're a great user and you deal with stuff very quickly. Thanks Reddeaddude 20:03, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

John Of The Undead 03:39, April 11, 2011 (UTC)Why did you delete my edit on Unicorn trivia?John Of The Undead 03:39, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sláinte mhaith?
Hi!

I have seen you use 'Sláinte mhaith' on many different talk pages and I was just wondering what it means.Reddeaddude 14:46, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Andrea Muller Quote
Sorry for f***ing up the quote. I thought I remebered him saying "German" but I guess I was wrong. It's been a while since I played the story.

LyHungViet, 10:09 PM, 11/4/11, GMT

RE: Character Names
Firstly, are we happy to see the Bounty Targets properly on the characters page and in the template? :)

Anyway, you're right, that is a bit of a conundrum.

But lemme ask you this - did you take pictures of them? If you don't have pictures literally showing the difference between the two characters, we should probably just make it a trivia item on each character's page. Not having pics to SHOW the difference might cause more confusion. It might even turn out that the Single Player versions of those characters are wearing skins from other Multiplayer characters that you just didn't recognize immediately when you saw them, in which case we'd definitely need pics to help distinguish them.

If you DO have pics, then we can make separate pages and be sure to make note on each of connection. Let's not make more articles if we don't have to...

And, let's face it, R* hasn't been perfect on the character stuff, for instance Jefe Rocha and Jesse Lange are both Multiplayer characters who wear the same skin and so does the Bounty Target Selestino Herrada.

So I'm convinced that the further we pick the game apart, the more of these kinds of things we're going to find.

Cheers!

-JackFrost23 15:32, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. - Thanks for saying "bollocks!" in one of your posts, it made me smile. :)

Hendidura Grande
You questioned the person who changed the translation to 'Large Cleavage', and I wanted to let you know that that's probably correct and not vandalism.

Cheers!

- JackFrost23 21:06, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hey
Hey i'm relatively new here any pages i could help out with? i'm pretty experienced at the game

Javier Escuella
It seems 2ks4 fixed the problem. What happened is: some guy copied and pasted info from Marstons page into the ! template, and since the a lot of our infoboxes use that template it was transcluded into the page multiple times.

Hope this explains it. Cheers :) --Anon <tt>talk</tt> 21:23, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Deaths in RDR Page, Categories 'n' Stuff
I'm glad you liked my message to that guy. I don't think he found it nearly as amusing as we did, tho' :)

But what is it about this game that renders people so incapable of not spoiling it for others?

Anyway, I don't really see a difference between the Outlaw and Criminals category, but I knew they both weren't necessary. I like Criminal more than Outlaw, but I can't explain to you why... :/

To be bluntly honest, tho', I'm kinda at my wit's end with categories. Some of them I see a point for, obviously, but trying to keep up with the ones people add and re-add after they've been removed has been frustrating. That's why when Anon decided to clean up the categories I was really relieved. But even now some of his hard work is already being undermined... *sigh* :(

I think those goddamn achievements are really hurting things, too. I think that's why were getting pages like the Deaths page and separate pages for buildings in Thieves' Landing and Blackwater, and OH BOY! a whole page for Marston's mentioned-briefly-but-dead daughter (with navigational links to almost nothing, I might add). I wondered with Anon whether they could be turned off, but I don't think either of us ever followed through to ask wikia. Maybe I should try...

Personally, I'd like to lock some pages permanently, but I know that's now how wikia operates. :(

anyway, sorry to blather at you.

Keep up the good work, mate!

Cheers!

-JackFrost23 16:30, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Revolver Templates
Praise Shiva!!! Somebody finally found the game :D I was meaning to get it myself, but I can't get my hands on it.

I created the character infobox, if you think anything else should be changed, let me know. I also left in the "Status", because I don't really know if it can serve a better purpose for Revolver characters, but if there's no good way of using it, then we can easily remove it.
 * Character infobox

I also created an infobox for the missions, but I'm not sure what need's to be changed to make it more specific to Revolver.
 * Missions

The fact that Revolver missions are hard to find through the search box is a bit of a problem, so if you can make everything work, then I have nothing against renaming the missions to something more intuitive.

If you need any more help with organizing all the Revolver pages, just drop me a message and I'll be happy to lend a hand. Cheers --Anon <tt>talk</tt> 05:32, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

???
do you have a ps3? if yes what is the name of your posse?

RE:
Sorry about that. And trust when I say that I'd never edit boost. I didn't realise that I edited almost every section until I was on the last one. User: Conqueror of all Zombies 22:13, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, you didn't seem rude. 22:17, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Booster
I gave him a three day block, and put a link to his talk page in the 'block reason', just in case he didn't bother to read the message you left him. Cheers --<tt>Anon</tt><tt>(Talk)</tt> 05:55, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

PS3
hey do you have a ps3 online

could i add you as a friend on wiki red dead

Bert Venter
I didn't even notice that page when I was still editing.

Anyway, I think the question should be posted on reddead.net's forums, since that's our "official forum place", and the forums here are supposed be used for wiki related questions. But, since I don't think this question hurts anybody, I moved the page to the forum namespace and edited it to look like a forum. So, you should've gone with your first instinct :D --<tt>Anon</tt><tt>(Talk)</tt> 01:47, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

i read your message
i'm sorry i'm new ive only joined a couple days ago so you dont want me to copy anything.

Nekoti Rock
" 23:06, April 28, 2011 First Tiger Hobbes (Talk | contribs) (5,410 bytes) (Okay, that's a glitch and I believe it's already on the glitches page. And wow! Snow in a cave on top of a snowy mountain?! It's like wind can't blow it in!) (undo)"

Woah there, Bessy!

There is no need to launch a classic attempt at sarcasm to point out a logical flaw in my first contribution to this wiki. Besides, while the wind may blow the snow in, that is not what I meant. I was talking about snow falling from the ceiling, as if it was snowing through the mountain. As for the beginning of your argument, it is invalid as well, seeing as how my comment is still relevant to the article it was posted in.

Thus, I see it fit that my contribution should be restored.

RE: Nekoti Rock
Why, what an unexpectedly gentle response. I shall gladly accept your apology, as we all have our cranky moments.

I must also apologize. The explanation of your actions is reasonable and I have come to realize how illogical it was for me to mention the glitch in the Nekoti Rock article itself.

Yet as for the second contribution, I would like to point out that reading the very statement you quoted will reveal to you that I literally wrote "[...] that it snows inside the cave.", correctly indicating what I elaborated in the message I previously posted on your talk page.

Kind regards,

TheScholar 01:59, April 18th, 1955 (UTC)


 * Oh, I am quite sure that we will get along just fine, as such tends to be the case between two reasonable individuals if only they address each other in an amicable manner.


 * Kind regards,


 * TheScholar 16:37, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Thanks
Yeah. No problem. I did notice however that you have a very long talk page, you might look into creating archives, just like you would create any other user page. So that you can have a "fresh start". Anyway, party on.... and be excellent to eachother. --Crowbar, resident grammar ninja 02:07, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

American Army Captain
Hmm.. I would give him a warning, and say that if he continues to rename the page, even though he has been asked to stop, he will be blocked for a short time. As for the trivia section, I never really like to put "possible" things in trivia, because to me trivia is a place for small facts that you might not notice, but nevertheless are interesting. But again, that's just my opinion. --Crowbar, resident grammar ninja 19:32, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Character Name?
Hello!

Hey, I was wondering, do you happen to know the name of the guy that runs the general store in Escalera?

I have pics, but I have no idea what his name is...

- JackFrost23 19:35, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Wagon
so do u now how to get the wgon with the gatling on the back

Re: Missing Persons
Agreed, I'll happily help with that expansion you mentioned in any way possible. I'm also curious if you agree with my theory that Porfirio Gutierrez is the Escalera doctor from the main game. I noticed a definite similarity in their face, clothing and personality, but I'd like a second opinion. GeneralGoose 01:11, May 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool. Look forward to seeing Lassiter's rewrite. :) GeneralGoose 01:18, May 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Awesome. I agree with that template. I'll start doing any work I can tomorrow. GeneralGoose 02:14, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

???
Its my page, I'll do what i want with it. I'm not gonna read the rules for a wikia website. But yeah i'll remember that next time. Thanks!

Hoff0320xz 03:24, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reference Removal
What are you talking about? I see movie references all the time on the wiki. Most of them not even explaining the guns characteristics or why its in the game. Why don't you remove those?

Hoff0320xz 03:30, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Re: ???/ Reference Removal
Hey man sorry bout yesterday i was just in a shitty mood. Idk what i was thinking. I won't do that again. And i'll remember that about the movie references. yea you were right man. Sorry bro! :)

Hoff0320xz 21:32, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re:
ok cool bro! hey how do you make a posse page on here?

Hoff0320xz 21:35, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Worth creating a page about the town defending aspect of UN?
Howdy there.

I've been thinking lately that it may be worth creating a page (and if not a page, a section on the Undead Nightmare page) about the town defending aspect of the game. Unless I'm missing something, there is no page for editors to put down useful town-saving strategies, town defending-related trivia, and various other pieces of information about the town-saving aspect of the game. Wondering about your opinion on the matter because I don't want to waste time creating a page if it's unnecessary or of little use. GeneralGoose 01:42, May 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Urgh, I meant town-saving. But, yeah, I'll get round to that in a bit. Thanks. GeneralGoose 01:56, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Red Harlow Fan
Looks like I've done something to him in the past, he might have even been unjustly blocked — happens sometimes :)

Anyway, I deleted his talk page and re-created it with the default welcome message. Cheers --<tt>Anon</tt><tt>(Talk)</tt> 16:44, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

???
Is my edit on Coot's Chapel a good addition to the page? Or is it irrelevant?

Hoff0320xz 06:16, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

PhotoShop?
Hey, bud, I've noticed you added a ton of character pics and that totally rules!

But I wonder: do you have PhotoShop (PS)?

Because your pictures are not bad (seriously, they're great) but they could use some touch-up, especially since the camera tends to wash out the color and lightens everything a tad too much (mine does this, too, but I run my pics through PhotoShop ;))

If you don't have PS, how about you e-mail the pics to me and I'll fix 'em up and send 'em back so you can post 'em and get credit for the pics?

Or am I being a complete twat in even suggesting this?

Cheers, either way!

- JackFrost23 19:04, May 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Phew! Good to know I wasn't ticking you off by asking. :)


 * Now are the pics you posted the raw photos, or do you crop them from another source?


 * If you have un-cropped versions, let me have those, as I'll be able to adjust things a little better when I crop them.


 * Do you have my e-mail address?


 * Cheers!


 * JackFrost23 19:21, May 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * P.S. - I think you managed to discover the name of Floyd Brogles' partner - I'm almost 100% sure it's Clay Pettiford. :)


 * Okay, I've touched up three of them so far. Let me know what you think before I ruin the rest... ;P


 * - JackFrost23 20:01, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. I was just removing the insults that Seth left me. [User:SirLinkalot96| Sirlinkalot96 ]] ( Talk ) 11:15, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Zombiemarston
I gave him a two week block for achievement boosting and the message he left you. If he comes back, I'll be mere than happy to extend it :)

Also, we gotta get you them admin powers, so you can take care of those guys yourself ;) --<tt>Anon</tt><tt>(Talk)</tt> 21:11, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

What is you problem?
right first of all, who do you think you are? i dont want YOUR stupid posts on MY talk page ive been reading some other complaints about you and first of, do you have life? a girlfriend? or maybe a job?... no didnt think so. your on of those sad acts that get their kicks out of threatening people on blogs LOL. you people make me sick.

just stay off my page or get reported. your choice. ill obey by the rules if you stop posting threatening messages. delete them now.

Some IP vandalized the Unicorn page. I fixed it, but I think we should block him before he vandalizes again. [User:SirLinkalot96| Sirlinkalot96 ]] ( Talk ) 23:07, May 22, 2011 (UTC)