If Kieran was still alive at the end of Arthur’s timeline, would he choose Dutch’s side, or Arthur’s, and why?
If Kieran was still alive at the end of Arthur’s timeline, would he choose Dutch’s side, or Arthur’s, and why?
Arthur's, he respected arthur. But I don't think he would last a second against the pinkerton and van der linde gang chase. 'Cause he got easily killed by the O'Driscoll.
Good thing Hosea didn't live to see this.
He would've been disappointed at what the van der linde gang has become.
He would've been upset that his friend - Dutch Van Der Linde - has lost his mind and ruined the gang.
I think if everyone didn’t die the ones that would take Arthur’s side would be John, Charles, Sadie, Susan, Hosea, Lenny, The callander boys, Sean, Jenny and maybe Kieran if he had the guts
We don’t know anything about the Callander brothers or Jenny, so it’s impossible to say with them.
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Ah Jesus Jenny and the Callander boys just popped into my head
And here was I hoping you would all ignore Jenny Davey and Mac and call me out for what I said about O driscoll
More likely he would have sided with Arthur had he survived that long and stayed. Arthur was someone Kieran wanted to earn the respect of. While Dutch let’s him stay with the gang he doesn’t care whether Kieran lives or dies and mainly ignores him for the most part. Arthur though initially just as distrustful as Dutch warms to him a little after Kieran saves his life.
If anything though, Kieran would have probably left with Mary-Beth if he’d lived. Whilst he had his moments he wasn’t much of a fighter and he seemed to desire a gentler lifestyle (probably why he wanted to stay, hearing Dutch go on about Tahiti).
As for the others who died. Jenny, Mac and Davey we can’t say. All we know is Lenny was sweet on Jenny, if that had developed then she may have stood with Lenny or had him stand with her. The brothers were mentioned to be quite a violent pair so it’s possible they would have chosen to stick with Dutch. But as I said we know virtually nothing about them so we can’t say either way. Lenny, absolutely would have stood with Arthur, no question.
Hosea was the only thing stopping the gang from ending up as it did. If he lived I think we would have more than likely seen Dutch against Hosea instead of Dutch against Arthur. Hosea was the one who shared his concern about Dutch with John, which led to John being viewed as the person in the gang trying to drive everyone away from Dutch. It’s more likely John and Arthur would have sided with Hosea than Hosea picking a side himself.
Sean is perhaps the hardest to place as he was considered by Dutch to be a third son of sorts and Arthur who viewed John as a brother also saw Sean as being a younger brother so it’s likely Sean would have sided with Arthur but at the same time he would consider Dutch a father so could just as easily side with him. Thing is Sean wasn’t much for internal conflict, before his death we see he finds the bickering between Arthur and Micah pointless and irritating. His jovial nature and tendency to make light of things would be misplaced in the gang by the time of Beaver’s Hollow. I think he would be swayed by whatever Karen was doing. Karen I think if she remained sober or rather drank less than she ends up drinking would have gotten fed up and left with Mary-Beth and Tilly. She probably would have dragged Sean with her and I don’t think he would have protested much about staying to support either Dutch or Arthur. He probably would have just wanted to get out and Arthur would have respected that. After all John just wanted to get out as did most at that point. Only with John, Dutch wanted to kill him for doubting him and ‘betraying’ him which Arthur knew and decided to help John escape before he died.
I was also thinking about who Karen would side with if she was completely sober and she is a great gunwoman so there might have been a chance that she would side with Arthur because Arthur was always good to all the women and I don’t think Dutch really took any notice of Karen and just thought she was just a silly alcoholic so my theory was if Karen stayed mostly sober throughout and Sean never got popped she would side with Arthur and Sean would follow suit
Arthur’s 100 percent
I think he would have sided with Arthur because he knew what a deranged leader looked like because of his time with Colm. I would've loved it if the gang wasn't as disbanded as it was. Like the people who side with Dutch still side with him but a few more beside that, and then like John, Sadie, Charlies Swanson, Uncle, Trelawny all side with Arthur. Maybe I'm just crazy idk but I think it would have been cool to see
What do you think?