I consider both outfits categorical proof that Rockstar sucks at choosing default outfits.

*prove

But out of curiosity, how so?

I've always liked John's although Arthur's, I might sort of see your point with.

**Categorical proof : without exceptions or conditions; absolute; unqualified and unconditional.

Don't correct my grammar, I wrote exactly what I meant and I will say no more.

Ah, I see now, apologies there.

Doesn't answer my question but everyone's entitled to their own opinion, even if they can't/refuse to elaborate.

Damn, he focused more on the grammatical correction than in the actual question.

I don't really like either. John's is better on its own imo (in RDR 1, anyway, I think it looks bad in RDR 2) although I think Arthur's can be vastly improved with a few small changes - more so than John's.