^ working hard on something doesn't guarantee something will be good. Im sure Grove Street games worked hard. Look how that fucking turned out. When your creative talent is leaving all at once like rats on a sinking ship, something bad is going on. I don't think a game where the top creative talent just abruptly leaves during or right before production has ever worked out in the end.

It's their own doing too. GTA 6 will never live up to the 10+ year hype.

If the games good the game Is good. But I see nothing from this company in the last 5 years that gives me any sign that it is going to be. I mean their own CEO said two years ago rockstar is above and beyond just making a simple port of their games. Then not even two years later, make a simple port of GTA 5 on current gen, and these basic ass RDR1 ports on Switch and PS4. I mean to his credit though, the GTA Shit edition wasn't just a simple port, it was an unmitigated disaster and embarrassment.

@WestVirginiaLoner I liked definitive edition. Sure it looks worse but it plays better than the originals so that’s a trade off I’m fine with.

^ well congratulations. You're one of 5 people on earth that have that opinion, I would say that's objectively false what you said, but I genuinely believe you are crazy enough to think they play better. Still no reason to have removed the OG versions from the stores

@WestVirginiaLoner I mean you’ve played the originals, right? Not just like- at a friends house after school- but played them?

Yeah, and at launch the game played like absolute ass. The games even now, play like absolute ass and are buggy as fuck and unoptimized.

There is literal countless videos showing just how inferior of a version the Defective Edition is to the originals.

What are you 15? I haven't been in school since 2017

I feel like this discussion is spiraling out of control. Maybe agree to disagree, here?

@Leprechaunlauch Naw it’s cordial enough. I mean it’s still somewhat relevant to the topic, but I think it’s a fun enough conversation to keep going- if that’s okay with you?

@WestVirginiaLoner You know you shouldn't base opinions on videos and what other people say. You’ve gotta go off your own experience and not be so easily influenced by other people.

I have played the games myself. The only improvements is the fact it's in a New Engine. Outside of that, there is no improvements. The few tweaks like the GTA V style weapon wheel has been a mod in the original games for a decade now.

They literally just took the code, put it through The new engine, and had an AI do 99 percent of the work. They even somehow accidentally included the hot coffee code and cut content into the game by accident. They didn't even give a shit enough to play test or check their work

These videos I'm referring to will go into painstaking detail to show you the differences between the two versions. It's not just "lol GTA definitive edition bad". These go into a technical level to show you. HIGHLY respected members of the rockstar community might I add.

@WestVirginiaLoner It doesn’t seem fair to me that you neglect to give credit for improvements just because “mods did it first.” An improvement is an improvement, no?