@Our Star Trek Future I thought Davy died of hypothermia or something along the lines of that.

@MadMikeRyan Inclined to disagree although I think calling it a "massacre" when like 2 people died is overstated

@DaDragonSavage The boston massacre was only five people.

To be fair, I’d imagine dozens of policemen and Pinkertons died— more than enough for a massacre.

@Leprechaunlauch wouldn't that mean pretty much any robbery mission could count as a massacre

The Saint Denis robbery because of Hosea and Lenny, losing one of the founders/leaders of the gang and Lenny who was growing in importance for the gang. Regarding the Blackwater ferry job/massacre, the ferry job definitely is the massacre. Because the Strange Man mentions Dutch killing Heidi McCourt in RDR1, and Dutch killing a girl during the ferry job is mentioned by Arthur, Javier and John in RDR2. And yes it counts as a massacre since apart from the gang members killed many policemen, Pinkertons and some bystanders were killed. Locals and press called it the Blackwater massacre.

@BuffDucks That event is incorrectly labeled as well

@Wyeds Nobody has ever contested that Heidi McCourt was killed during the ferry robbery, of course she was, only that the ferry robbery and the massacre are different events. Your point means nothing. The Strange Man only mention "that raid on the ferry in Blackwater", he doesn't explicitly say "Blackwater Massacre", and correct me if you've ever found a source but as far as I'm aware nobody in either game ever says the phrase "Blackater Massacre" it only appears briefly written. There remains no clear evidence that both events are intended to be the same.

Nah they’re definitely the same

@DaDragonSavage More than just two people died in the Blackwater Massacre, though. The gang killed like a bunch if lawmen and pinkertons.