Blackwater

It’s even in California which is West Elizabeth also it’s the capital of West Elizabeth just like Sacramento is the capital of California. Also Sacramento is kind of a port town because it has a large river

Don't the states seem kinda small? Like, if Saint Denis was to industrialize and grow a bit more, the entire Bayou Nwa region would be covered in urban jungle, same goes for Blackwater. I haven't seen or heard of any cities in the U.S. that have grown to cover an entire county.

Blackwater Robbery and Saint Denis Robbery. Had gone badly wrong in the campaign. Pinkertons had Blackwater in lockdown and the Van Der Linde had fled. Even Hosea and Lenny died, the gang was finished. Hosea was the voice of reason. Lenny was the future. Dutch went crazy and really starts to go downhill and lose it after. I BEEN THINKING that Micah is a rat so he snitch to the Pinkertons and bring the law on the gang.

I have wondered this for quite some time and thought I'd finally ask the community: if you could live anywhere in Red Dead's world (out of all three), where would you live and why?

For me, it would have to be Blackwater, as it seems to be quite a quaint and peaceful town whenever it isn't being shot up.

So what about the rest of you?

This was a quote from a news paper I found in Chuparosa while replaying RDR 1 as Jack. How come I haven’t heard anyone talk about his involvement with the Blackwater Massacre?!

”Landon Ricketts Dead

Another piece of the Old West died last week with news that legendary gunman Landon Ricketts passed away quietly in his sleep. Mr. Ricketts, famous for his involvement in the Backwater Massacre of 1899 and the deaths of the Butcher brothers in 1896, returned to the US three years ago after living for many years in Mexico.”

It's just my opinion but I think RDR2 should've begun in Blackwater instead of the snowy Grizzlies. There should've been an entire prologue chapter in Blackwater before the first chapter in Colter. It would be about Micah convincing Dutch to rob the ferry and Arthur's and Hosea's real estate scam job. I think 6-7 missions could've been easily made out of the chapter.

What are your thoughts?

I have been trying forever to get into West Elizabeth. Every time I try I get shot at like mad! How do I get into Blackwater without getting noticed by every god dam lawman and person who owns a gun!!!???

P.s Those Lawmen at the broken bridge part. Yeah, I tried to sniper then using dead eye. Well they didn't die!!! I tried everytime I was going back to camp from Strawberry they are still there as we speak, laughing at me the outlaw who shoots like a stormtrooper!!!

Anyway help would be nice thanks ☺?.

So now I am going to try and explain the Blackwater Massacre, the bloody and massive gunfight between the Blackwater Police Department, the Pinkerton Detective Agency, possibly Landon Ricketts and the infamous Van der Linde gang. The massacre was caused when the Pinkertons attacked the gang during a ferry job with the cold blooded murder of Heidi McCourt at the hands of Dutch van der Linde.

Anyways.

Before the massacre, the gang was doing fine, staying on the hills of the Northern Grizzlies following a fire in which Arthur lost his journal. On the road, they picked up two new members: Jenny Kirk, a young abandoned girl they meet on the roadside, and Micah Bell, a outlaw who saved Dutch's life after he offended some locals when trying to sell some gold they stole and he decided to offer Micah a position in the gang. Arthur mentioned that he heard a tale of a man who sounded like Josiah Trelawny, but he couldn't believe it, since they haven't seen him in many months but we will get back to that. The gang decided to camp outside Blackwater, a growing port in West Elizabeth. One day, Arthur and Hosea learned of a big lead, a real estate scam they decided to go after, but while they were doing that, Micah told Dutch of a ferry that was carrying loads of money and gold to the bank in Blackwater. After being convinced, Dutch decided to pursue it, despite Hosea and Arthur's protests of it not feeling right. Hosea and Arthur decided not to participate in the job, with Dutch and Micah planning the job instead. The job then was executed when the gang raided the ferry. Jenny is mentioned to have been shot and later died during the robbery so she would have a role as a distraction in the job. And now about the brutal murder of the young mother Heidi McCourt, killed by Dutch. I personally believe that she was a hostage held by Dutch so no one would try anything funny and force the others to hand the money and gold to the gang, but then the Pinkertons learned of what was going on and attacked the gang, with most likely Milton and Ross being a part as well, with the Blackwater Police later intervening as well with famous gunslinger Landon Ricketts also joining against the gang. When the shootout happened, Dutch accidentally killed McCourt in a panic in which the gang and most likely Milton witnessed, being disgusted but trying to continue fighting their way. Jenny was most likely shot while escaping with the others. When Hosea and Arthur was most likely done with their scheme or they had to stop their scheme, they learned of the gunfight and quickly headed to the shootout to help the others escape, this is where Arthur's horse Boadicea was most likely killed, possibly during their escape. They quickly head back to camp and get everyone to pack up and they escape into the mountains. Of course, Davey is shot in the gut but makes it with the others, Sean however is knocked out and then captured by bounty hunters. Mac was split off from the gang and tried to escape Blackwater, where he was caught up by Milton who decided to kill him. Jenny died during their escape, with Davey later passing away when the gang reached Colter. John was also shot in the shoulder during the massacre by what I would guess is most likely Landon Ricketts himself but it was only a flesh wound, as he would later get sent scouting.

Now about the Trelawny thing, the man who was described like Trelawny is most likely the Strange Man himself since the gang hasn't seen or heard about Trelawny for months before the massacre and he was most likely watching from a distance in Blackwater and probably the heist.

Now how the Pinkertons knew about the ferry, it was most likely I guess was a tip off from no other than Micah himself. There is evidence that he had a newspaper scrap of the massacre and a wanted poster of Dutch and most likely wanted the Blackwater money and tried to have Dutch turned in.

Anyways, that was my theory/thoughts on the Blackwater Massacre. Let me know if there is anything else I should have discussed about.

According to newspaper articles, the money stolen from Blackwater by the Van Der Linde Gang was owned by the bank, which was transporting it by boat. At the very end of the game, at least a portion of this money is finally recovered by Micah and John ends up taking it and paying off his bank loan for the ranch with it. So in other words, the money that was stolen from the bank in Blackwater, bringing about this whole chain of events, ends up right back in the bank’s hands after 8 years. Obviously not every cent, but the irony of the situation is just too comical for how much it’s overlooked.

I recently finished Red Dead Redemption II, and did everything, every challenge, every mission, all the events, killed all the animals I can, but it felt... empty. A man as good as Arthur Morgan needs a proper send off, as the true Legend of the East. I'm redoing the story of Red Dead Redemption II with the hopes of being Legend of the East as Arthur. I can instantly see one problem, the Horseman Challenge 10, taming every horse breed. How can I tame a Mustang when they are indigenous to New Austin? Any help will be appreciated.

So I’m keep waiting outside the tailors in black water with the Y prompt and for some reason it teleports me right to the middle of the heartlands when I come to in the morning, it’s happened multiple times. Has it happened to anyone else?