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H. Roosevelt

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  • I live in the American Midwest
  • I was born on October 10
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  • Can you please delete the page Micah has golden chances to prove his betrayal, but he did not do anything that indicates his betrayal it was Candidate for deletion, Thanks.

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    Well, what is that? Schofield Revolver. I was right! (Sorry for screenshot from YouTube)

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    • That's alright, I can still make out that it is a Schofield. However, the Trivia point should remain though be altered accordingly do to the weapon used to kill Mister LeClerk being referred to as a "pistol" with such rounds in the opening, if I'm not mistaken.

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    • But some people named "revolver" just like "pistol", but we can stay with Trivia of course.

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    • It's heavily implied to have been some sort of pistol as they do show pistols rounds in the opening. Him having a Schofield instead could be developer oversight, as they don't ever state which of the known pistols he uses exactly.
      RDO-Pistol cartridges
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  • as far as being sure about it goes, I know for a fact he says it. If I can find a youtue clip of him saying it will you allow it? I will also be able to add it to a more relevant page this way. But it will take a while and im not putting in the effort if you are just going to revert it back either way. 

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    • Quite possibly. I was under the impression it had been referenced in the first game previously but it seems it may merely be a fan theory. I mean, sure some of the gang make comments in camp in 2 about the scars but not any apparent lack of sight I'm aware of.

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    • Check out Kane from the Kane and Lynch games ( That i hope make a comeback one day )

      Kane






      Now THAT is what a guy blinded in one eye after an attack looks like lol. John can see just fine im sure =]

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  • Why you delete Captain Monroe's affilation?

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    • Compared to Colonel Favours, the affiliation was merely passing. We tend to keep affiliations more notable and if the two characters are affiliated with the same group, it's fairly redundant to noted with each individual that character encounters.

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  • I'm glad you fixed oswald Dunbar I was trying to add Herman Zizendorf 

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    • You had, then I linked it to the character's article. However, your next edit removed two pictures and removed all spacing. Please review your edits before finalizing them to prevent such from happening.

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    • Thanks for linking Herman Zizendorf for me

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  • Hello,
    Yesterday, i have send a message on discuss but there was deleted. I'm loocking a RDO player who have finish the new role (for adding as friend on SC and see the official description). I don't need someone on the french wiki just have a possibility to have the official description in French.

    So why my messages was deleted ?
    Bon Wiki
    Thegamer1604 (Discussion) 06:57, July 31, 2020 (UTC)

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    • I had seen your post in question a few hours after you had posted it. While I had not been the one to flag or delete it, I believe staff had done so due to it potentially violating guidelines in regards to advertising. Granted that was likely the case, I would recommend posting on a relevant channel on our Discord Server as we have several matchmaking channels there.

      I hope that proves to be of assistance.

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    • Okay, i don't see how the message can violating the guidelines. I will send a message on the discord (I am already present on).

      Thank you for the anwser.

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    • It's done and the message was again deleted ! So it's not the Staff but on of your moderator. I know some people think the other language are useless but they can ignore the message.

      I'm not here to rescute someone, just find informations which i can't obtain actually.

      Can you tell us no delete my message please ?

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  • Why did you reverted my edits? I had a lot of work in adding them and create a new category and page in the RDR2 wiki and you're NOT helping at all in reverting my eidts you're just staring an uncessessary nuisance and annoyance.

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    • I apologize for undoing the contributions you had put effort into but it wasn't an entirely necessary, especially granted those included were from random encounters (save for one) and the catergory itself wasn't relevant for those reasons.

      You should also know that lacing your messages with insults in no way means you're going to get your way. I understand you may feel frusterated but to to put simply, if you have a problem with any user, you can convey whatever your disagreements are without trying to be offensive.

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  • Hey just letting you know the Posse page linked in topnav (Community->Misc) has been deleted, maybe someone forgot to remove/replace it from topnav? Have a good day!

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  • Why isn't discussing box burning or buffalo jumping a necessary bit of trivia to include? It's real-life trivia about Native American hunting. Would it be alright to place it on a different page?

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    • While it appears a fellow staff member has already responded to your question, I don’t mind explaining the reason I had done so since I had removed it in the first place.

      The hunting tactics you noted with the claim that Charles Smith’s reaction to poaching was contrary not only lacked relevance due in part to the tribe he originates from never being specified but also the implication that all Native American tribes had both used and continued to use that tactic by this time period, which is incorrect. One of the references you provided also was written with a specific agenda as opposed to being a more objective source.

      Beyond that, adding similar statements to pages related to Native Americans on the wiki within and the rewording on the Wapiti Indians page is either a clear or misguided attempt to downplay the oppression Native Americans suffered at the hands of the United States. It’s frankly ignorant to push as much blame on the Natives themselves as possible rather than accepting the fact that the United States has both historically and recently acted in oppressing them, as somewhat depicted within the games.

      I hope that better explains what I had meant with the reversal.

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    • "One of the references you provided also was written with a specific agenda as opposed to being a more objective source."

      What is your explanation as to why this was made with a specific agenda as opposed to being a more objective source? 

      "Wapiti Indians page is either a clear or misguided attempt to downplay the oppression Native Americans suffered at the hands of the United States."

      I thought the Red Dead wiki was about a series that was a fictional representation of America. Why would historical accuracy be needed for a fictional represenation of America in one case and not another? I'm not sure what argument you are making here.

      "It’s frankly ignorant to push as much blame on the Natives themselves as possible rather than accepting the fact that the United States has both historically and recently acted in oppressing them, as somewhat depicted within the games."

      Please, do NOT misrepresent my arguments. I NEVER said the United States government didn't do anything wrong to the Native American people. I have made that VERY clear. I was adding sourced facts about history that are based on evidence and historical truth. What does pointing out that Native Americans tribes utilized the Buffalo jump have to do with "push as much blame" on Native Americans? I find Native American history (and especially this time peiod of America) fascinating. I don't deny that Native Americans suffered through broken treaties, violence, and other unsavory acts in American history. At the same time, to suggest that somehow removing emotional language and adding cited facts of Native American culture (while also at the same time approving of wildly unfounded arguments on wiki pages) somehow "decreases the message of Native American suffering" is an emotional argument not built on reason or logic.

      The absolute cheek of suggesting that acknowledging the complicated history of the American peoples in favor of a simplified narrative of Native Americans being victims is not only disrespectful to the history of Native American culture, but to basic history. The arguments of why these are not considered "trivia" have not only been illogical, but also contradictory based the other examples of trivia on this site. 

      "that all Native American tribes had both used and continued to use that tactic by this time period, which is incorrect"

      Do you know which tribe Charles belonged to in the game? By your own argument, you could be just as wrong for removing that piece of trivia as I could be for suggesting it because you're implying you know what tribe Charles came from. What argument do you have in terms of this tactic being used in this time period being "incorrect?"

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    • I apologize if my response came off as personally offensive in any way. That was not my intention. However, the assumption that the arguments made by both another admin and myself outright deny the complicated history of Native Americans is not accurate. With that stated, I do not wish to draw out this discussion given that type of rhetoric is bound to derail into a pointless back and forth, no longer pertaining to the issue itself.

      “What is your explanation as to why this was made with a specific agenda as opposed to being a more objective source?”
      If you mean to ask what I think, it’s due to the author being well-known for spreading false information and shameless about doing so. This article was no different in exaggerating any Native American effects to the bison population and depicting it as if their lesser contributions to the issue were equatable to those done by settlers, accompanied with misappropriated statements such as "Isenberg wonders whether the North American bison herd was already falling below replacement levels before white hunters arrived", insinuating, based on vague speculation, it was as severe as the meddling conducted by settlers. That is textbook sophistry, even if done so with the admission of the faults of the settlers as they had. They go on further to also prop up the system that nearly destroyed the bison as if its eventual efforts in preventing the potential extinction nullified its interference entirely. All in all, if that system hadn’t done its more considerable damage in the first place, there wouldn’t have been a problem to mend.

      “I thought the Red Dead wiki was about a series that was a fictional representation of America. Why would historical accuracy be needed for a fictional represenation of America in one case and not another? I'm not sure what argument you are making here.”
      Specific context to the game matters. To put it simply, the Red Dead series as a whole is, of course, a fictional representation of America and as such, storylines akin to the situation with the Wapiti Indians serve to highlight dark moments in American history. This also leads me to your next argument.

      “The absolute cheek of suggesting that acknowledging the complicated history of the American peoples in favor of a simplified narrative of Native Americans being victims is not only disrespectful to the history of Native American culture, but to basic history.”
      This is reaching a hyperbolic point in regards to trivia not properly tied to the pages in question. Your mention of Natives having conflict amongst themselves implies they shared similar blame to the settlers and soldiers who oppressed them, also going by what your own source claimed. The sentence contained the contributors to their plight. As such, I also never stated you hadn’t noted the United States government’s aggression, I only expressed that you were shifting blame on the Natives as well as if it were comparable. On another note, this high horse argument that these reversals deny or disrespect history is a distraction to the issue of their overall relevance.

      “Do you know which tribe Charles belonged to in the game? By your own argument, you could be just as wrong for removing that piece of trivia as I could be for suggesting it because you're implying you know what tribe Charles came from. What argument do you have in terms of this tactic being used in this time period being "incorrect?"”
      The wording of your contributions generalized these hunting tactics as if committed by all tribes. As I specifically stated, we don’t know Charles’ tribe, hence why his disgusted reaction to wasteful hunting tactics he witnessed committed by poachers shouldn’t be considered contrary. He was disgusted because it obviously wasn’t a practice whichever tribe he originated from condoned. As such, again, neither the buffalo jump or box burning tactics were historically still widely employed by Native American tribes as recently as the game takes place, as noted in the separate source you had provided.

      With that said, this was all supposed to be in regards to whether or not your contributions to the pages were relevant and they remain not to be for the reasons of Charles Smith’s aversion to wasteful hunting hinted to have stemmed from how he learned to hunt in addition to these aforementioned tactics being factually unrelated through the manner in which these situations occur. 

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