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Wagwan piffting23

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    • As the edit summary made clear, there is already a PC video for the articles which you edited. Additionally, as the videos that you added had the missions in Italian, the already-existing videos would take precedence as they are in English, which is favourable as this is wiki’s language is English.

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    • Wagwan piffting23 wrote:
      As the edit summary made clear, there is already a PC video for the articles which you edited. Additionally, as the videos that you added had the missions in Italian, the already-existing videos would take precedence as they are in English, which is favourable as this is wiki’s language is English.

      Ok understood, sorry... i thought that the video section could accept various languages...

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    • Instead, you consider uploading them on to the Italian Red Dead Wiki?

      I am not familiar with the wiki so I don’t know to what extent, if any, the wiki needs them, but it’s something you could check out if really want to upload these videos.

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  • I watched a gameplay of Micah Bell talking to Reverend Swanson Maich tells reverend that he believes God, heaven and the soul are fairytales so I added nore information to Micah's personality. Micah also tells reverend that he believes the church and people who represent the church deceive people he says that he thinks the church and God are great evil then anything else.

    I added some of that information to his personality more information helps people learn more about Micah's character. Micah tells Reverend Swanson that jo one has a soul.

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    • Talking about Micah's personality he shows is racist side by telling Lenny it is unusually for someone like him to red and write. He also shows his racist side when he says to Lenny he shot a lot of folks like him.

      Also speaking of Micah's personality he tells Strauss he doesn't like money lending and loan sharking is where Micah draws the moral line.

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    • That’s all good information, although pages tend to talk about aspects of his personality as a whole, rather than dwell on specific examples. If you think there is anything to add to Micah's personality, by all means add it, but bear this in mind.

      Earlier, I mentioned my desire to make a page for Sean's father. I recall a newspaper or newspaper scrap (I think it was the latter) which told his story. However, I can’t find the information source anywhere in the satchel, so I’ll probably have to replay it or reload an early save and try and find it from there. Unfortunately, I will not be able to make the page until I find it.

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    • Ok thanks also hopefully the page for Sean's father will be made. I will see if I can help on finding information about Sean's dad.

      Oh yeah when Micah talks to John about him almost being eaten by wolves Micah says that he has never had any animals try to eat or kill him he says that animals don't like him or come anywhere near him.

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  • Have you guys decided on what to do about the bounty targets on Red Dead Online yet?

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    • I haven't counted them but I'm hoping to get every last one of them.

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    • I see. I admire your ambition, but with suggestions that the targets are randomised or otherwise extremely high in number, that may become extremely difficult.

      There is also the question of whether the biographies are worthwhile. Although they would be a nice extra on the new page, they would be fairly meaningless in the event that the targets are randomised, which may or may not be true. What’s more, they will make the page significantly harder to make; without them, a simple two column section with the names of the targets would be all that’s needed for them on the page, but with them, there would have to be a table, which is complicated to make and perhaps even impossible on VisualEditor.

      If you’re willing to help with the extra work, then gathering the biographies would be most welcome. If not, I might suggest otherwise.

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  • Sean's story that tells in the game I heard it when I was playing the game sitting down next to the campfire. People even have a video up on YouTube of him talking about how him and his father were forced to come to America and how his dad was killed in America and how he was sent to reform school.

    I have heard Sean tell that story when my brother plays his file on the game as well.

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    • I'm trying to juggle the whole thing of talking to two people you and the other person who joined in. Your welcome and I wish the whole problem of adding Wiki to my phone didn't give me problems of not letting me use my account that I am using right now.

      Thank you for the advice of the Fandom app it was my first time of using it. The account is my real name while this account is just a internet name used for wikis.

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    • It would be good to have page for Sean's Father.

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  • I saw you recently removed Jerimiah from the Morgan page, for evidence simply replay the mission and hold L2/LT BEFORE getting too close and you'll see he's a flaxen Chestnut Morgan, thought id just add that thank you for you contributions to this wiki, hope to hear back

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    • I haven’t been able to do that, but I think it’s highly likely that Jeremiah is the horse you describe. Jeremiah’s coat is identical to the Flaxen Chestnut Morgan, and both his build and stats are also the same. I really can’t think what else Jeremiah is other than a seemingly giant Morgan, so I’ll re-add it. Thanks for finding this out!

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    • Anytime pard

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  • What do you mean Bill “changed his name”? Like, legally? Cause you’d need evidence of that. Otherwise, as he states in game, he took to calling himself Bill which makes that a nickname.

    He literally states in game his name is Marion and you can find discharge papers referring to him as Marion Williamson. I don’t know why you just straight up undid that edit but I’m starting to think you don’t like me pal

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    Kerbert27 closed this thread because:
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    21:22, September 27, 2019
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    • Kerbert, you are distracting from the issue at hand and your messages are pointless. First, I’ve already pointed out that my original ban seemed excessive, and expressed my reasons for thinking so. Raziel said he would look into it, but had been quiet for a week. So if I get banned again, it’s no skin off my back, cause I think you guys are abusing your powers.

      Second, I’m not trying to get attention. I’m making perfectly acceptable edits and when they get undone by power mad moderators I express my discontent in discussion threads which is perfectly within the rules. Your decision that my inability to use the edit button still doesn’t constitute as spam, because it doesn’t affect the activity page.

      Finally, either get out of this thread or provide your own reasoning why you think referring to Bill as Marion “Bill” Williamson in the opening sentence and in his early bio is a “terrible idea”

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    • I think all of us have had enough of this. Numerous aspects of your behaviour are not only in direct contradiction of what wiki policy allows for, but also completely unreasonable. We have already stated why the introductory section should not include “Marion”, yet you act like this hasn’t happened and accuse us of undoing your edits without any reason. Furthermore, you cannot call people “power mad” just because they have a different opinion to you; discussions about wiki matters are supposed to be about the situation at hand, so your accusations were not only hollow and untrue, but also irrelevant.

      You have been blocked for three weeks. After this time, you are welcome to continue your work on the wiki. However, this matter is closed, and any further correspondence from you on either this topic or the poker player situation will be ignored. Any more similar behaviour violations after your block ends will result in an indefinite block, so I think both of us should hope that this does not happen again.

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  • Well apparently there are corpses with glowing green eyes, however the one on the pic seemed to be glitched standing upright. They might be teasing something. Found some in Armadillo. You can pick them up but you cannot carry them for more than a few seconds and they are dropped automatically and cannot be picked up again. Not sure if you have seen it before i thought i should let you know since we might have to create a new page here if this is going somewhere but it is definitely not by accident
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    Zombie lady found in RDR2

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    • Yes, I have heard about this new occurrence. A popular theory on the matter is that they may be hinting at a second Undead Nightmare, although this is unproven. I don’t feel the need to make a page about them just yet, but really I need to find out all that I can about them and think about it more carefully before making a final decision.

      Cheers!

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  • To reiterate my points in as neutral a way as I feel is possible:

    Your defence for deleting the gamblers’ pages still doesn’t hold up, in my opinion, under scrutiny. There are certainly pages for characters of far less importance towards background lore or any other aspect that have pages (and I’m aware I created the page for Bradley Hunt, but I thought I made it clear why I felt confused by your apparent validation for that character and not for three other characters that are, again in my opinion, equally valid contributions towards the wiki).

    Second, my main issue, which I again felt I made clear (sorry you seemed to have misinterpreted my tone) is that you deleted the articles with no community discussion and used the nomination for the articles’ deletion by one (1) other user as enough justification for that action.

    And on a final note, my issue with you has evolved into more that fact that I think you are abusing your rights. I pointed out policy that states your opinion does not automically usurp my own. Other policy dictates how vital community discussion is for the site’s growth (and also states you shouldn’t delete messages, but anyway). If you really just wanted me to “cool down” as you put it, I know you got other options. I’ll keep making good edits, as you graciously pointed out, but I fear I don’t operate well under authoritarians

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    • @Kerbert - I stated nothing about having a past relationship with former admins. I stated that many of them have contributed towards articles of minor characters because I felt it bolstered my case that the three gamblers deserve articles.

      Also, I only mentioned my past as a member of this wiki in an effort to point out I have been a user of this site for several years, with no issue, and therefore a week long ban was unwarranted.

      As aggressive as I apparently come across, I have no misconceptions that I am “louder than others” and I’m unsure what rules I’ve even broken.

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    • There’s also rules against edit warring, Kerbert, and on the one (1) occasion I undid Wagwan’s edit (on Uncle’s page), I explained my reasoning and it was immediately undone. When my trivia post to Barbarella Alcazar was deleted, I went to the talk page of the user who removed it to explain why I felt it should remain.

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  • In regards to long standing policy on this wiki, any character mentioned or appearing in the red dead series deserves a page. Don’t understand why you deleted the pages for Theodore Dixon, Owen Gillies and Perry Eastep. They are literally characters that appear in the red dead series and there are pages for lesser characters that are only mentioned in conversation. Please back up your decision considering you edited but didn’t delete the page for Bradley Hunt. How is he more significant? Any character mentioned or appearing in the fame deserves a page.

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    21:28, September 9, 2019
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    • Ralph Bagley from the first Rdr can only be found hanging around the town. He doesn’t even appear in a mission. But he contributes more towards Redemption’s lore than Dixon etc. Right? You stand by that?

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    • Ralph Bagley does, yes. The page says the following about what he does: “Ralph can most often be found in Thieves' Landing, loitering in and around the docks. However, he has been known to frequent Blackwater docks”. The page also notes that he uses a Schofield Revolver, includes quotes, and says who he shares his appearance with. Long story short, his page has enough information on it to justify its existence. The page for the three poker players does not.

      As I said in my previous message, how the characters are named is irrelevant. If they’re too minor, there’s no need a page. That’s it. Whether or not their names are randomised is not relevant. Furthermore, you also misquoted me when you said that I made an argument in favour of horse pages. I did not advocate that, and instead said that pages more minor than these three poker players have been deleted for being too minor, so it is logical and reasonable that something less relevant (the poker players) were deleted. That is not, of course, why these poker players had their pages deleted, it was done purely on the basis that they did not yield enough information to warrant a page (as I keep saying).

      You also appear to have changed your mind on Bradley Hunt, asserting that he “contributes nothing towards the wiki and even towards the lore of the Night Folk” (which is odd considering that you made the page, but anyway). I disagree because, as I said in my previous message (a recurring theme here, eh?), a page about Bradley Hunt is in itself a page detailing the activities of the Night Folk, which is especially important given how little is known about them. The pages on these three poker players do not have the same importance.

      I will not block you (not yet, at least), but nor will I continue having this conversation with you. I have not changed my mind, and what I tell you does not seem to go in. Due to your apparent lack of cooperation, manners, and even ability to be reasoned with, I will not do you the courtesy of responding to your second complaint. And with that, the case is closed.

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  • Did you get any luck on that website with the RDR Brady's Game Guide on there? If not, I could try send you screenshot. I wouldn't know how, though, I'm not exactly tech savvy. But I'll try.

    Also, do you know of any users that have the Game Of The Year Strategy Guide? I would like to compare The Brady's Game Guide and The Game Of The Year Strategy Guide, as it appears that they're mostly identical, with possibly minor differences. 

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    • Hello there. I apologise for not getting back to you earlier.

      Unfortunately, I have not had any luck accessing Brady's Game Guide. I don’t know whether this is down to my device, internet browser or simply a poor internet connection, but for whatever reason, it refuses to load. If you could send me a screenshot of it, it would be much appreciated!

      To answer your second question, I do not have the guide, and nor do I know anyone who has it for a fact. However, I do remember a dispute on Dutch's page a few months back, where User:Rvb forever referred to the Guide as a source for Dutch's birthdate. It is therefore possible that she may have it, so I would suggest contacting her.

      Regards,

      Wagwan piffting23

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    • Ok i'll try, thank you.

      Something interesting to note. On Bill's talk page, there is a user who appears to have also read The Brady's Game Guide, since he mentioned that Bill is 29. This comment was from July 2010.

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