There’s very little that can be said about a bounty wagon. In terms of content, you could have:
The wagon's function (which is fairly simple anyway)
And not much else. An article with such a small potential for information should not be on the wiki. In fact, the bounty wagon is already mentioned on the Wagons page, under the section for Red Dead Online. You may expand this if you wish, and you could add your photo to the gallery, but a page for itself is not only a duplicate page of sorts, but also too lacklustre.
Hey there Wagwan. In Red Dead Redemption 1, John mentions that Bill left him to die. There are two occasions of this, once during the mission "Spare the Rod, Spoil the Bandit" (You need to fail the mission to get this specific line of dialogue):
John: Barring in mind, he left me (Bill) to die twice now.
The second is during "An Appointed Time":
John: You shouldn't have left me to die, Bill.
Bill: Well, no one wanted you around, John.
It's very clear that John is referring to Bill leaving him to die at the robbery. Red Dead Redemption 2 contradicts this by showing that Bill did not, in fact, leave John to die. The ones who left John to die were Dutch, Javier, Micah, and Joe.
I added trivia to the pages for "An Appointed Time" and "Our Best Selves" mentioning this fact. However, on the former page, I somewhat got into a minor edit war (I apologize for that) with another user who claims that due to the fact that Bill was on Dutch's side, Bill inherently left John to die, something I disagreed with. He also claims that the Pinkerton attack on Beaver Hollow is what John was referring to, which I think is unlikely, as no one was left to die there, it was an "everyman for himself" type situation.
If you think of it from John's perspective, Bill did leave him to die. When John is shot off the train, all he would see of Bill is him continuing to ride. We don’t know whether Dutch got to him, but regardless, John wouldn’t consider Bill any differently, as Bill never reached him either.
It’s also true that, when Dutch went back for John, he went with Micah and Javier. Bill may have been like Arthur - too engrossed in what he’s currently doing to suddenly leave - but this doesn’t make any difference to John as he isn’t aware of the circumstances. Also remember that Bill did not volunteer to look for John, so technically he did leave John there.
I do agree that the standoff at Beaver Hollow is not the moment which is being referred to, but something else interesting happens here. In the caves, John says to Arthur: "Those bastards left me for dead", and Arthur responds with, "I guess that’s what they do now". In both instances, use of "they" and "those" indicate that they are referring to the gang collectively - including Bill. Arthur does not say that Bill didn’t leave him to die, and that’s arguably because it wouldn’t be true. Even though Arthur doesn’t go back because Dutch says he’ll go and rescue John, Bill is not told this and barely even reacts.
Regardless of whether it’s fair on him, Bill did leave John to die. Perhaps more importantly, from John's point of view, Bill is no different from the other gang members leaving him to die. I therefore don’t see any issue with continuity, as what John remembers in RDR is ultimately right: he got shot and was simply left there.
As the edit summary made clear, there is already a PC video for the articles which you edited. Additionally, as the videos that you added had the missions in Italian, the already-existing videos would take precedence as they are in English, which is favourable as this is wiki’s language is English.
Wagwan piffting23 wrote: As the edit summary made clear, there is already a PC video for the articles which you edited. Additionally, as the videos that you added had the missions in Italian, the already-existing videos would take precedence as they are in English, which is favourable as this is wiki’s language is English.
Ok understood, sorry... i thought that the video section could accept various languages...
I watched a gameplay of Micah Bell talking to Reverend Swanson Maich tells reverend that he believes God, heaven and the soul are fairytales so I added nore information to Micah's personality. Micah also tells reverend that he believes the church and people who represent the church deceive people he says that he thinks the church and God are great evil then anything else.
I added some of that information to his personality more information helps people learn more about Micah's character. Micah tells Reverend Swanson that jo one has a soul.
Talking about Micah's personality he shows is racist side by telling Lenny it is unusually for someone like him to red and write. He also shows his racist side when he says to Lenny he shot a lot of folks like him.
Also speaking of Micah's personality he tells Strauss he doesn't like money lending and loan sharking is where Micah draws the moral line.
That’s all good information, although pages tend to talk about aspects of his personality as a whole, rather than dwell on specific examples. If you think there is anything to add to Micah's personality, by all means add it, but bear this in mind.
Earlier, I mentioned my desire to make a page for Sean's father. I recall a newspaper or newspaper scrap (I think it was the latter) which told his story. However, I can’t find the information source anywhere in the satchel, so I’ll probably have to replay it or reload an early save and try and find it from there. Unfortunately, I will not be able to make the page until I find it.
Ok thanks also hopefully the page for Sean's father will be made. I will see if I can help on finding information about Sean's dad.
Oh yeah when Micah talks to John about him almost being eaten by wolves Micah says that he has never had any animals try to eat or kill him he says that animals don't like him or come anywhere near him.
I’d like to hear some opinions from more staff members (and editors in general, for that matter) before making a concrete decision. Possible alternatives are being discussed, including a page for bounty targets in Online as a whole, how they operate, and the potential individual targets. However, this decision is not yet final.
I will contact you, either on this thread or on your wall, when a decision has been finalised.
The pages will be deleted and replaced with a single page for bounty targets in Red Dead Online. This page will outline how the bounty system works in Online and have a list of all the possible bounty targets. This is it, for now.
However, how to go about this is an issue. Firstly, deletion. There is such a high number of pages to delete that I will need help from others, and failing that, either a bot account or AutoWikiBrowser. Secondly, I have not played Online, so I’m severely limited as to what I can add to the page myself, and again, I will need help from others who know much more about it than I do.
Rest assured, it will happen, but not immediately.
Anyone is free to edit the page, obviously, so you can organise it in whatever way you wish. This applies to anyone on the wiki. Although the page's content should be describing how bounty hunting in Online works and then a list of all potential bounty targets (perhaps more, but that’s all I can think of for now), the way in which this is applied is up to editors.
The page's name should be "Bounty Targets in Online". As I haven’t played Online and know relatively little about it, I can’t do much more than give the name of the page and suggest a general structure. Anyone is free to make this page whenever they wish, and organise it however they wish.
I see. I admire your ambition, but with suggestions that the targets are randomised or otherwise extremely high in number, that may become extremely difficult.
There is also the question of whether the biographies are worthwhile. Although they would be a nice extra on the new page, they would be fairly meaningless in the event that the targets are randomised, which may or may not be true. What’s more, they will make the page significantly harder to make; without them, a simple two column section with the names of the targets would be all that’s needed for them on the page, but with them, there would have to be a table, which is complicated to make and perhaps even impossible on VisualEditor.
If you’re willing to help with the extra work, then gathering the biographies would be most welcome. If not, I might suggest otherwise.
Sean's story that tells in the game I heard it when I was playing the game sitting down next to the campfire. People even have a video up on YouTube of him talking about how him and his father were forced to come to America and how his dad was killed in America and how he was sent to reform school.
I have heard Sean tell that story when my brother plays his file on the game as well.
Also the story that Simon Pearson tells about is life is in the game there is gameplay footage of Pearson talking his dad hunting whales. Both of the information of Sean's life and Pearson's come straight from a YouTube video actually gameplay from the game.
I think I found a link to the video for Pearson if it doesn't take you to the video or if doesn't load up I apologize in advance. Just doing my best to give you and show you the proof. Anyway here is the link.
I'm trying my best but there is something wrong with the link. I believe that I finally got the link right. Actually I think that the problem is fixed now so the link should load up.
I suggest you check out the two links they provide useful information about Pearson and Sean information that is missing. After it is good to know everything about the characters.
Also let me know how well the links work. No one likes for something to be incomplete and with out the information from backstories in these links the characters pages can only be fully complete until the stories from these linked videos are add.
Also here is the link to Sean's life story as proof []
Although there some problems trying to load up the link to Sean's video.
I posted those videos because I added information the characters blife stories to their pages and the information was deleted.
I posted the videos proof to show that the information about Sesn and Pearson is real information that I didn't make those stories up. With proof from the videos I am hoping that information on the characters won't get deleted again if proof is shown.
I am using Google to reach Red Dead Wiki Google won't let me download links to it so I downloaded Red Dead Wiki to my phone. Only one problem when I downloaded it to my phone the app told me I can't use an account that was already taken and being used.
Honest truth about that talk about being pain the app telling me to try a different account when I already have almost made me rip my hair out. Also since you were polite there no problem with butting in Kerbert27 don't worry as long as you keep that polite good manner it is fine.
I see. I don’t have any problem with the videos themselves, so thank you for uploading them. With the Fandom app situation, I would recommend not using it if it’s causing you problems. Do you admit that the account on the discussions is yours?
I'm trying to juggle the whole thing of talking to two people you and the other person who joined in. Your welcome and I wish the whole problem of adding Wiki to my phone didn't give me problems of not letting me use my account that I am using right now.
Thank you for the advice of the Fandom app it was my first time of using it. The account is my real name while this account is just a internet name used for wikis.
I saw you recently removed Jerimiah from the Morgan page, for evidence simply replay the mission and hold L2/LT BEFORE getting too close and you'll see he's a flaxen Chestnut Morgan, thought id just add that thank you for you contributions to this wiki, hope to hear back
I haven’t been able to do that, but I think it’s highly likely that Jeremiah is the horse you describe. Jeremiah’s coat is identical to the Flaxen Chestnut Morgan, and both his build and stats are also the same. I really can’t think what else Jeremiah is other than a seemingly giant Morgan, so I’ll re-add it. Thanks for finding this out!