Polite Society, Valentine Style

Red Dead Redemption 2 missionPolite Society, Valentine Style
Game	Red Dead Redemption 2
Chapter	Chapter 2 - Horseshoe Overlook
Start	Horseshoe Overlook
End	Caliban's Seat
Given by	Uncle
Location	Valentine, The Heartlands
Mission Objectives
Ride to Valentine Optional Speak to the coach driver Calm the escaped horse Lead the horse Return the horse to the coach driver Get on the wagon Follow Uncle Buy some coffee Meet outside Defuse the argument Search the hotel for Karen Beat up the client Go outside Chase the man from Blackwater Deal with the man from Blackwater
Rewards	Pen (determinant)
Dialogues	Polite Society, Valentine Style/dialogues
Progression
Unlocked by	"Eastward Bound"
Unlocks	"Exit Pursued by a Bruised Ego" "Good, Honest, Snake Oil" "Pouring Forth Oil I"

“	Alright! Here we are, just like I said. The cultural center of civilization. Man at his finest.	„
	—Uncle

Polite Society, Valentine Style is a mission in Red Dead Redemption 2.

Mission Overview

In search of new leads for the gang, Karen, Tilly and Mary-Beth convince Arthur and Uncle to ride out to Valentine with them.

Story

Arthur wakes Uncle up in camp while he's sleeping. After pointing out Uncle's constant laziness, Arthur tells him to get in the wagon as they need to get some things in Valentine. Karen, Tilly, and Mary-Beth convince Arthur to let them go as well. While they get on the wagon and ride out, the girls sing a song. As they near Valentine, the group encounter a man whose horses have fled from his wagon. Arthur can either help him get his horse back from nearby or refrain entirely; helping the man results in a small Honor boost, while refusing results in a small loss. Once they resume the ride, they reach Valentine, where the women explore the town in order to find any leads, while Arthur and Uncle buy supplies from the general store and have a few drinks before Arthur dozes off.

Afterward, Arthur is awakened by Mary-Beth, who informs Arthur of a train coming down through Scarlett Meadows, filled with rich tourists and laden with baggage. Arthur approves of the idea, and John later helps Arthur plan to rob it. Arthur then notices Tilly is being harassed by a man across the street. After sternly warning the man to leave, Arthur enters the Saints Hotel to find Karen. He finds her having been hit by a man she was attempting to steal from, who Arthur then takes care of.

After the group meets outside, a man asks Arthur if he was in Blackwater, as part of the failed ferry robbery. Arthur denies it, but the man doesn't believe him and rides off. Arthur steals a horse from a resident in the town and chases after the man until he falls off his horse and hanging on a cliff. Arthur can choose to either save him or kill him.

If he is saved, the man says that his name is Jimmy Brooks and thanks Arthur, who admits that he was in Blackwater recently. As thanks, Brooks gives Arthur a pen and rides away; the player will gain a significant amount of Honor accordingly. Alternatively, the player can stamp on his hand or refuse to help him and cause Brooks to fall to his death, causing a substantial loss of Honor.

After completion of the mission, the player may come back to Valentine to return the horse they borrowed for a small honor gain. They may also keep or abandon her, to which the owner will be displeased as he claims to have spent six months worth of pay for her.

Dialogue

Polite Society, Valentine Style/dialogues

Gold Medal Objectives

• Return the lost wagon horse to its owner.
• Find Karen within 45 seconds.

Mission Failure

The mission will fail if the player:

• Assaults, kills, or abandons Uncle, Mary-Beth, Tilly, or Karen;
• Destroys or abandons the wagon;
• Abandons the area;
• Assaults or kills the man who needs help with his wagon;
• Alerts the law;
• Assaults or kills Anthony Foreman;
• Lets Jimmy Brooks escape;
• Annoys the camp inhabitants;
• Dies.

Deaths

• Jimmy Brooks (optional) - Fell to his death after losing his grip
• Client (optional) - Killed by Arthur Morgan for attacking Karen Jones

Trivia

• Arthur's proximity to Uncle affects how he wakes him up - if he's close enough, he will kick Uncle in the leg, but if he isn't he will simply shout at him.
• During the girls' song on the way to Valentine, Karen mixes up the lyrics at one point and laughs about it. This was a genuine moment made during recording that was left in the final game.
• The dialogue on the way to Valentine will change depending if "Americans at Rest" has been completed.
• Upon arriving in Valentine, a unique train with very few wagons can be seen heading west. A man can be seen running onto one of the cars before it departs.
• While in the general store, Uncle will ask Arthur to buy either coffee, chocolate or cigar.
• If Arthur goes behind the counter while in the General Store, the shopkeeper will not react to it.
• While searching for Karen, if the player enters the room to the right from the rent room they will encounter the constipated man that can be heard every time the player enters the hotel in free roam. Additionally, if the player enters room 1B before heading upstairs, they will encounter a member of the Chelonians praying on his knees.
  • However, both rooms will be locked and both the constipated man and the Chelonian will be absent if Arthur tries to visit them after finding Karen.
  • Killing any of the two characters will result in mission failure and the "law was alerted" message, regardless of the weapon used.
• After the mission is complete, the bathroom and room 2A in the Saints Hotel will become temporarily unlocked for the player to explore. Moreover, the hotel clerk asks him not to cause any trouble.
• Arthur can technically kill Anthony Foreman, but in doing so he will fail the mission because the law has been alerted.
• It is possible to mount Anthony Foreman's horse without obtaining a wanted level but the player cannot ride too far away from the area as this would cause the mission to fail.
• If Arthur steals Anthony Foreman's horse, the latter will pursue the player until they retrieve it back. In this case, If Arthur gets on Anthony's horse again the mission will fail due to "the law being alerted".
• Karen's dialogue after returning to the group depends on Arthur's decision to either kill the client or simply knock him out.
  • The only way to kill Karen's abuser is by choking him, as the game doesn't allow the player to use any weapons inside the hotel.
• If the player does nothing while Jimmy Brooks is hanging from the cliff, he will fail to get back on and eventually fall to his death.
• There are two bits of foreshadowing quotes that Arthur will remember during his final ride to camp in the "Red Dead Redemption" mission depending on his Honor:
  • If Arthur questions Brooks about recognizing him while the latter is hanging onto the cliff, he will say, "I made a mistake, I’m sorry!", a line that Arthur remembers if his Honor is low.
  • Afterward, if Arthur decides to help Brooks climb back up to safety, the latter will say, "You saved my life... you're a good man!", a line that Arthur remembers if his Honor is high.
• Arthur writes two pages in his journal after the mission is complete; the second page will differ depending on the fate of Jimmy Brooks.
• If the player loots Jimmy Brooks' horse, he won't react to it.
• It is possible to kill Jimmy Brooks after the mission when he is leaving the area. Arthur will say "Sorry, Jimmy Brooks."
• If the player follows Jimmy Brooks after the mission, they will see him loitering around Lucky's Cabin.
• Arthur may have a few contextual conversations at camp after this mission. He may tell Dutch about being recognized by the Man from Blackwater, he may tell Mary-Beth that she did good finding out about the train, he may ask Tilly about the guy that hassled her, and he may ask Karen if she has recovered. Some of the girls at camp may be available to talk about Valentine generally in the subsequent days.
• The pen that Jimmy Brooks gives Arthur is a unique item. When Mary-Beth tells Arthur she would like a pen for her writing, this particular one cannot be used to satisfy said item request.
  • It cannot be looted from Jimmy's corpse and can only be obtained through the cutscene.

Gallery

Coach driver asking for help

Unique train seen during the mission

Jimmy Brooks hanging on a cliff

Video Walkthroughs

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